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mcconnell and boehner had a different kind of sound, different tone today after the meeting. watch this. >> obviously the president won re-election. the republicans were basically unable to get any seats in the senate. more people voted for democrats in the house than republicans. why do you have any leverage whatsoever? >> there's a republican majority here in the house. the american people re-elected the republican majority. >> it's important to remember that in this case, the voters also re-elected a republican-controlled house last week. the fact is the government is organized no differently today than it was after the republican wave of 2010. >> now, listen to what they had to say today. >> tomorrow is speaker boehner's birthday. so for those of you who want -- >> i believe we're getting that tape. i want to show. >> happy birthday, john baner. >> i'm going to go to that. but i want to show the difference in the tone between then and now because today, you know, all of what you saw right after the election was you know, well, you know, they elected both the president and
mcconnell and boehner had a different kind of sound, different tone today after the meeting. watch this. >> obviously the president won re-election. the republicans were basically unable to get any seats in the senate. more people voted for democrats in the house than republicans. why do you have any leverage whatsoever? >> there's a republican majority here in the house. the american people re-elected the republican majority. >> it's important to remember that in this case,...
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mcconnell very well. can you explain to me and his viewers how he believes he and not the president has a mandate, despite democrats increasing their number in the senate, winning the presidential election and not winning the house, mostly because republicans jerry manneded so many districts. >> primarily i'm not sure he believes it but he's saying it because he's talking to a different audience than we are and most of the country is. i think he's in a very difficult spot. i don't think he really faces a serious threat from thinks right in kentucky but he doesn't want to do anything that's going to invite one. meanwhile, his real vulnerability is if he's the one seen blocking a deal that everybody in the country and everybody in both parties wants. so, i think he's trying to negotiate this, sounding tough for his right flank but also i think the important thing to watch is what he does. and if he lets his members, the other 44 republicans in the senate kind of do what they're going to do, make the comprom
mcconnell very well. can you explain to me and his viewers how he believes he and not the president has a mandate, despite democrats increasing their number in the senate, winning the presidential election and not winning the house, mostly because republicans jerry manneded so many districts. >> primarily i'm not sure he believes it but he's saying it because he's talking to a different audience than we are and most of the country is. i think he's in a very difficult spot. i don't think...
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. >> congresswoman, as we see with nancy pelosi willing to stay put, mitch mcconnell staying put. harry reid and john boehner staying put. the president back in, what people would expect musical chairs. none will happen. it's the same people in the same positions and yesterday senate majority leader mitch mcconnell took to the floor and said they won't compromise. we had that interview with paul ryan with abc's jonathan karl saying it's not a mandate. they have a divided government so they'll continue with back and forth of head butting and the taxes should not be raised on wealthiest americans. are we headed just for the same old same old once again? >> i don't think so. first of all we are very pleased about nancy pelosi remaining as leader. she's done an extraordinary job in helping to increase our numbers here on the democratic side, in raising the money that was necessary for us to strengthen our hand here in the house and so she has done such a good job that we urged her to please stay on and that experience really does count. let me just say this, there is some posturing go
. >> congresswoman, as we see with nancy pelosi willing to stay put, mitch mcconnell staying put. harry reid and john boehner staying put. the president back in, what people would expect musical chairs. none will happen. it's the same people in the same positions and yesterday senate majority leader mitch mcconnell took to the floor and said they won't compromise. we had that interview with paul ryan with abc's jonathan karl saying it's not a mandate. they have a divided government so...
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now today mitch mcconnell is willing to do a 1 to 1 deal. republicans lost all of their leverage in this election. they made a big gamble and came up empty handed. in 2011 president obama was cutting deals with john boehner on the golf course. it was very favorable for the republicans. the president agreed to more than $1.2 trillion in cuts, benefit reductions of social security, raising the medicare eligibility age and actually lowering tax rates on the wealthiest americans. now in the end, republicans, what do they do? they rejected the deal. they wanted more and the way to get it was to beat the president of the united states in november. the president fought back almost a year ago. he announced the message of the reelection campaign. the same place where teddy roosevelt gave birth to progressivism. >> do we want to make the investments we need in things like education and research and high-tech manufacturing, all those things that help make us an economic super power, or do we want to keep in place the tax breaks for the the wealthiest a
now today mitch mcconnell is willing to do a 1 to 1 deal. republicans lost all of their leverage in this election. they made a big gamble and came up empty handed. in 2011 president obama was cutting deals with john boehner on the golf course. it was very favorable for the republicans. the president agreed to more than $1.2 trillion in cuts, benefit reductions of social security, raising the medicare eligibility age and actually lowering tax rates on the wealthiest americans. now in the end,...
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but mcconnell should be careful what he wishes for. right now he's worried about that tea party challenger on the right. well, ashley judd if she decides to run with her appearance and her youth against mitch mcconnell in a general election, i don't think that's such a slam dunk. >> that is a fascinating -- >> ashley judd card. >> if i were mitch mcconnell i'm not sure i would go that far to the right. looking at indiana, who thought mourdock was going to lose. >> especially if you start getting deals done. once the sort of initial -- once the first shoe has fallen i am of the mind they can't go back to digging their heels in. if boehner proves he can get this passed without the tea party holding him hostage it's a wrap. >> what dan was talking about earlier, seeing if the president has real sort of legislative interest and umf coming into the second term and play with congress and learn how do that well. the other thing what the administration has been talking about a lot sort of taking it to the american people, going into campaign m
but mcconnell should be careful what he wishes for. right now he's worried about that tea party challenger on the right. well, ashley judd if she decides to run with her appearance and her youth against mitch mcconnell in a general election, i don't think that's such a slam dunk. >> that is a fascinating -- >> ashley judd card. >> if i were mitch mcconnell i'm not sure i would go that far to the right. looking at indiana, who thought mourdock was going to lose. >>...
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speaker boehner, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. all of them saying they will fight the president on taxes. all of them saying the president doesn't have a mandate. but president obama has something to say about that. >> i have one mandate. i have a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard to try to get into the middle class. that's my mandate. >> this is a clear message. it's what americans voted for a week ago. are you sure you want this fight, republicans? democrat from pennsylvania chuck fatah and ezra klein, msnbc policy analyst. he's writing about the fight over taxes today and the piece is called "the big question: how, not whether, to raise taxes." thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> good to be here. >> congressman, do you think republicans will make a deal or is this 2010 with the tea party all over again? >> well, what the public needs to understand is the income tax system is not fair to them. there is a report done by the congress each year by the joint committee on taxation
speaker boehner, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. all of them saying they will fight the president on taxes. all of them saying the president doesn't have a mandate. but president obama has something to say about that. >> i have one mandate. i have a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard to try to get into the middle class. that's my mandate. >> this is a clear message. it's what americans voted for a week ago. are you sure you...
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do you think the president needs a beer summit, mitch mcconnell, john boehner? the three get together and figure out how to work together. >> we need to get everybody in the room. everybody should be at the table, and everything should be on the table, and the time is now to do that. >> my power panel, thanks so much, gentlemen. i appreciate your insights. coming up in just a few minutes, i'm going to have a chance to talk to dnc chairwoman, congresswoman debbie waserman schultz will join us. >>> congresswoman gabby giffords will come face to face with the shooter who nearly took her life and the lives of 11 others. >>> why are we waiting on florida once again? we're going to talk to debbie wasserman schultz about her home state. president obama reelected. what should be the first thing on his agenda? . ♪ 99 bushels of wheat on the farm...99 bushels of wheat! ♪ [ male announcer ] yep, there's 8 layers of whole grain fiber in those mini-wheats® biscuits... to help keep you full... ♪ 45 bushels of wheat on the farm. 45 bushels of wheat! ♪ ...all morning l
do you think the president needs a beer summit, mitch mcconnell, john boehner? the three get together and figure out how to work together. >> we need to get everybody in the room. everybody should be at the table, and everything should be on the table, and the time is now to do that. >> my power panel, thanks so much, gentlemen. i appreciate your insights. coming up in just a few minutes, i'm going to have a chance to talk to dnc chairwoman, congresswoman debbie waserman schultz...
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if the republicans folded on that then and the mood that we're seeing ut from people like mitch mcconnell and bill crystal their mood on tax has shifted a little bit since the election. i think it's pretty clear at this point where this is going. >> you think their knees are getting weak. i will point out to you, david brooks, writing in the new york times, this is not the republican party of 2010. today's republicans no longer have an incentive to deny obama victories, never running again, much to the point you brought up. republicans will play ball, except then you have people like newt gingrich and this what is newt gingrich said this morning on "morning joe." let's take a listen. >> no house republican should be bamboozled into this idea that the only person that has a mandate is barack obama. the house republicans have a mandate. it's fundamentally different than obama's mandate. they would be well put not to try to cut a deal with obama but to say paul ryan is going to bring forth a solution to the fix, we're going to gather votes for it. i guarantee you you'll have a democratic sub
if the republicans folded on that then and the mood that we're seeing ut from people like mitch mcconnell and bill crystal their mood on tax has shifted a little bit since the election. i think it's pretty clear at this point where this is going. >> you think their knees are getting weak. i will point out to you, david brooks, writing in the new york times, this is not the republican party of 2010. today's republicans no longer have an incentive to deny obama victories, never running...
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when you have john boehner and mitch mcconnell and mitt romney talking about immigration, immigration reform, it doesn't hold the water, the credibility when marco rubio or ted cruz or martinez does it, who has a better background and basis for making comments on it. that is why it -- >> bob: it's a question of policy. are they going to change policy? >> eric: they are the ones to do it. if you're romney with immigration reform. >> dana: in 1986, they passed the bill, the immigration bill because of the amnesty bill in 1986, republicans are the ones that passed that. ronald reagan signed it. republicans lost seats in 1988. i don't know if that is the right rabbit to chase. >> bob: they increased percentage among hispanics. >> andrea: i still say no, matter what, amnesty, free healthcare, student loans. give, give, give. g.o.p., no quick fix and it doesn't see a harvard professor to see where it's going. coming up, the main stream media may not be totally to blame for the republican losses this week but they weren't fair and balanceed in the reporting. what should be done about it? we'
when you have john boehner and mitch mcconnell and mitt romney talking about immigration, immigration reform, it doesn't hold the water, the credibility when marco rubio or ted cruz or martinez does it, who has a better background and basis for making comments on it. that is why it -- >> bob: it's a question of policy. are they going to change policy? >> eric: they are the ones to do it. if you're romney with immigration reform. >> dana: in 1986, they passed the bill, the...
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you mentioned speaker boehner, the other thing to watch out for is the fact senator mcconnell, normally a kaubs, very cautious politician by nature will look over his shoulder to make sure he doesn't face a tea party challenge. all of that together, i think, makes it a toxic atmosphere and something we will have to all watch carefully. >> now you -- do you believe that the president is giving up leverage if the republicans don't believe he'll go over the cliff? >> yes. >> and you think he has sent a message that he's willing to go over the cliff? >> i think he sent the message and i'm prepared to reiterate that. >> you think the president is willing to go over the cliff? >> i believe that he is prepared -- >> i have not heard that from him. >> you are looking at the fact that come january 1st if there's no agreement taxes will go up on everyone. including the middle class. i think that's a politically unsustainable position. that the republicans are going to come to regret but, yes, you're right. you haven't heard it yet from the president. he needs to keep his flexibility open as we go
you mentioned speaker boehner, the other thing to watch out for is the fact senator mcconnell, normally a kaubs, very cautious politician by nature will look over his shoulder to make sure he doesn't face a tea party challenge. all of that together, i think, makes it a toxic atmosphere and something we will have to all watch carefully. >> now you -- do you believe that the president is giving up leverage if the republicans don't believe he'll go over the cliff? >> yes. >> and...
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mitch mcconnell. republicans, you know what they got? a lot of soul searching to do. in fact, former mississippi governor, haley barbour said the gop needs to look deep into their souls. >> we've got to give our political organizational activity, you know, a very serious proctology exam. i think that's the only -- we need to look everywhere is my point. >> that would be up where? most people see a party which is still leaving minority voters by the the wayside. the images of long lines on election day are still burned into the voters' minds. these lines were engineered by who? republicans. trying to suppress voters in democratic areas. in florida, republican lawmakers pack the ballot with unnecessary measures to keep voters in the line for as long as they possibly could so they wouldn't do what? vote. scott walker's colleague in wisconsin said mitt romney would have absolutely won the state of wisconsin if they had just had some voter i.d. laws. right? president obama won wisconsin with more than 205,000 votes. that's a lot of people to suppress in order to make a sur
mitch mcconnell. republicans, you know what they got? a lot of soul searching to do. in fact, former mississippi governor, haley barbour said the gop needs to look deep into their souls. >> we've got to give our political organizational activity, you know, a very serious proctology exam. i think that's the only -- we need to look everywhere is my point. >> that would be up where? most people see a party which is still leaving minority voters by the the wayside. the images of long...
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and can you imagine mitch mcconnell versus ashley judd? >>> if you read only one thing this morning, "time" magazine answers an interesting question. did the $6 billion in campaign spending at least help the economy or did it just annoy all of us? i added that last part. it's up on our facebook page. and a trip to the one place with the new ideas that help us pull it all together. from the things that hang and shine... ...to the things that sparkle and jingle. all while...
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and you know, mitch mcconnell will have been here 30 years. he hasn't really had a new idea in 20 of those 30 years. >> ouch. >> and kentucky needs a new -- i go way back with mitch. we go this way all the time. but, kentucky does need a new vision. we've relied too much on things like coal and agriculture and some other things that are great parts of our economy, but our commonwealth needs new vision and that can come from someone like ashley judd, who is passionate, who studied the issues, and is very, very smart. and she would get attention. >> i'm sure. >> i think it's exciting. >> definitely she'll get attention that's for sure. i'm sure from this network and everybody else. many thanks for joining us. >> okay, alex, thank you. >>> straight ahead, why is florida still counting? gether, and these come together, one thing you can depend on is that these will come together. delicious and wholesome. some combinations were just meant to be. tomato soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just re
and you know, mitch mcconnell will have been here 30 years. he hasn't really had a new idea in 20 of those 30 years. >> ouch. >> and kentucky needs a new -- i go way back with mitch. we go this way all the time. but, kentucky does need a new vision. we've relied too much on things like coal and agriculture and some other things that are great parts of our economy, but our commonwealth needs new vision and that can come from someone like ashley judd, who is passionate, who studied...
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even mitch mcconnell went to the floor and said, i will consider higher revenues, but the president has to agree to something on entitlements. so the question is, if he does do something, how many democrats can the president bring on board because as you mentioned, the le left, a lot of folks are concerned. people who campaigned for this president don't want him to be throwing him under the bus. >> speaking of the liberal wing of the democratic party, what are you hearing about nancy pelosi's future? >>. she's being mum on that right now. she said tomorrow morning by 10:00 a.m., we'll all know her decision. some of that may leak out beforehand. but right now, she's gauging whether or not she has the political support to keep the control of her spot atop the democratic leadership. she's not saying one way or the other she will stand on board or the democrat from maryland, her number two would assume as the top democratic leader. >> i know the election was a long time ago, but i just wanted to refresh everyone's memories a little bit about what we were talking about in the election. >> i
even mitch mcconnell went to the floor and said, i will consider higher revenues, but the president has to agree to something on entitlements. so the question is, if he does do something, how many democrats can the president bring on board because as you mentioned, the le left, a lot of folks are concerned. people who campaigned for this president don't want him to be throwing him under the bus. >> speaking of the liberal wing of the democratic party, what are you hearing about nancy...
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i think boehner and mitch mcconnell will say no increase in tax rate, 35% is it. i think the president will concede on that point. i think bainer and mcconnell will then accept the idea of cutting culling or capping the deductions each individual and the higher brackets can take, set a top limit on the deductions they can take and that will increase the revenue flow into the federal government. at the same time, the two congressmen, republicans, preserve the rates argument. they won't make all of their folks happy, but i think that's the deal in the works. >> greta: a couple of problems. number 1 is, the fact that -- today at least, i am always stunned when -- with the exception of senator tom coburn, i barely hear anyone talking about the tremendous amount of waste and fraud. we put up the example of the guy in the bathtub with the wine glass, which is a tiny, tiny bit, but it's representative of the mind-set here. no waste and frawpd fraud. they won't raise the tax rates, but when you do put caps on deductions, you are raising the effective rate. i mean, i guess
i think boehner and mitch mcconnell will say no increase in tax rate, 35% is it. i think the president will concede on that point. i think bainer and mcconnell will then accept the idea of cutting culling or capping the deductions each individual and the higher brackets can take, set a top limit on the deductions they can take and that will increase the revenue flow into the federal government. at the same time, the two congressmen, republicans, preserve the rates argument. they won't make all...
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nevertheless when you think about speaker boehner and switch to senator mitch mcconnell whose instant reaction to the president being re-elected was this is not a mandate, how do the republicans find the compromise? i believe it was the headline on politico well before we got into the heart of the campaign season that said speaker boehner's job was specially trying to hurt cats referring to some members of his caucus. >> that's a good analogy. the president came very short of saying, i won, you didn't. he said, you know, look i want to compromise. everything's on the table. i want to hear your ideas. but the people have spoken and we need to get moving here. speaker boehner is from the old school of let's get something done. he has been hijacked and hamstrung by the right flank of his party, and i think what he was trying to say the day after the election is you know okay. i'm with you. let's try to get this done. i'm ready to jettison some of the loons, the far right in the party, and try to work with democrats to get a compromise. the other thing is they're both using squishy langua
nevertheless when you think about speaker boehner and switch to senator mitch mcconnell whose instant reaction to the president being re-elected was this is not a mandate, how do the republicans find the compromise? i believe it was the headline on politico well before we got into the heart of the campaign season that said speaker boehner's job was specially trying to hurt cats referring to some members of his caucus. >> that's a good analogy. the president came very short of saying, i...
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boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority leader harry reid, and minority leader mitch mcconnell from the senate there. as we heard in the last statements, the last two people to take the microphones, nancy pelosi talking about her optimism and confidence out of the meeting today but most importantly there mitch mcconnell bringing up the fact that revenue is on the table and that these were constructive talks. however, bringing up the point that they need to take on entitlement programs and look at those just as fiercely as well as they're looking at tax revenue. we're back with much more right after this. oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to her! no you're not. i know. you know ronny folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than a witch in a broom factory. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. some people put everything intotheir name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to sh
boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority leader harry reid, and minority leader mitch mcconnell from the senate there. as we heard in the last statements, the last two people to take the microphones, nancy pelosi talking about her optimism and confidence out of the meeting today but most importantly there mitch mcconnell bringing up the fact that revenue is on the table and that these were constructive talks. however, bringing up the point that they need to take on entitlement...
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mitch mcconnell doesn't recognize those groups. keep going. >> no, he doesn't, and that's fine for him for now but we're going to make him recognize us if he doesn't get back in line. they're completely out of touch with the country they're living in. i will just say it, the bottom line is we have to be the ones who hold them accountable. we have to be the ones who say you can't ignore the results of tuesday. >> joy, someone no less than the nobel laureate paul krugman has suggested to the president that don't even bother to the negotiate with them. go to the fiscal cliff and fall off. it. >> i think it's given a lot of the beltway media i have to say and a lot of people on wall street this excuse to make it sound like on january 1st, the world would literally end. what would happen is number one, negotiations would begin immediately to restore the middle class parts of the tax cut and there would be sort of a slow but, you know, it could be potentially serious if it went on too long but i doubt it would go on very long. once you h
mitch mcconnell doesn't recognize those groups. keep going. >> no, he doesn't, and that's fine for him for now but we're going to make him recognize us if he doesn't get back in line. they're completely out of touch with the country they're living in. i will just say it, the bottom line is we have to be the ones who hold them accountable. we have to be the ones who say you can't ignore the results of tuesday. >> joy, someone no less than the nobel laureate paul krugman has suggested...
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. >> i would like to say that i see a potential for both mcconnell and pain at the dividend do what thepresident is done which i council both parties to do. approach policy from the perspective of the middle class, those who aspire to it. i've said it for the past two years in this campaign. the president actually did it. it paid off, and it paid off by one-half of 1%. and i think that is an advantage. do you think they're capable of pivoting? >> yes. i think he absolutely is. >> i agree. >> he is the most important person in this right now. he -- by who they chose jim it's pretty clear where he was this party the go. lou: i sure hope somebody starts talking about the fact that we have seen individual tax receipts for the federal government go up by 26% over the past two years with those bush tax cuts in place. it might add to the intellectual argument. if we can call it that. thank you very much. see you. now, your comments. i believe the ad mall was on t
. >> i would like to say that i see a potential for both mcconnell and pain at the dividend do what thepresident is done which i council both parties to do. approach policy from the perspective of the middle class, those who aspire to it. i've said it for the past two years in this campaign. the president actually did it. it paid off, and it paid off by one-half of 1%. and i think that is an advantage. do you think they're capable of pivoting? >> yes. i think he absolutely is....
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but he and mcconnell laid down the line. they said we will not raise tax rates because this is harmful to the economy and i happen to agree with them i think if we go to tax rates at 45 percent to 50 percent that actually can cause a double dip recession. if that happens, we are not going do have more tax revenues we will have less because more will be unemployed and businesses make small are profit. the problem with revenues right now, we do have a revenue problem in washington, dc, but that is because the who is not growing. people are not paying much taxes because we do not have growth. you get the growth rate up you get an officer if revenue. >>neil: but it could be a democratic strategy for saying we doing all of this, and republicans will count themselves grateful if all they got was eliminating some deductions and putting a cap on write offs. as we have discussed on fox business network, which if you don't have you should demand, but that could be worst than a hike to 39.6 percent because depending on how much the adj
but he and mcconnell laid down the line. they said we will not raise tax rates because this is harmful to the economy and i happen to agree with them i think if we go to tax rates at 45 percent to 50 percent that actually can cause a double dip recession. if that happens, we are not going do have more tax revenues we will have less because more will be unemployed and businesses make small are profit. the problem with revenues right now, we do have a revenue problem in washington, dc, but that...